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In attendance: Eileen Williamson and Ella Arensman (NSRF), Suzi Lyons (Health Research Board), Deirdre O’Reilly (Irish Prison Service representing the Department of Justice), Anna Wallace (Department of Health ), Bernadette Smith (GRO), Sara Parsons (Garda Commissioner’s Office),Paul M. Crowley, James Barrett, Carol Anne Hennessy (CSO).
Apologies: Colm Desmond (Department of Health), Ciaran Austin (Console), Myra Cullinane (Cork City Coroner) Gerry Raleigh (National Office for Suicide Prevention).
Eileen Williamson welcomed everyone to the meeting, made the relevant introductions and conveyed the apologies of the non-attendants to the meeting.
Minutes agreed.
Actions arising from meeting of the 14th January, 2016.
The CSO presented report on their analysis of Forms 104 in relation to unnatural deaths that occurred in 2013. The report (i) outlined the number of Forms 104 that had been issued by and that were returned to the CSO (II) established how well the forms were completed by the Gardaí and (III) evaluated any gaps in the information returned. In addition, details were presented of the number of cases where the tentative underlying cause of death had been changed totally or slightly as a result of information received from the Form 104. The CSO stressed the value of the information that is received on the Form 104 and as a result of its analysis made recommendations to the group. These are:
A hard copy of the report was distributed to all present and an electronic copy of report will be attached to the Minutes.
The Cork City Coroner’s comments regarding the current Form 104 were discussed and it was agreed that any review process would require the Coroners presence and input.
Sara Parsons of the Department of Justice will check if there is a directive for the Gardaí to return the completed Form 104 and she will revert to me in due course. If there is a directive then it could be re-issued in order to encourage return of these forms across the country.
As there is a general belief that deaths from suicide are under-counted, the CSO suggested that they carry out an exercise that involves looking at deaths from suicide that may form part of a geographical cluster. Suicide deaths in excess of 3 are regarded as a cluster. These deaths would be looked at individually to establish what was the underlying cause of death that was attributed by the mortality coder and if a Form 104 was issued\received. The NSRF identified 2 such clusters i.e. Mayfield\Glanmire (22 deaths over a 2 year period circa 2009) and North Cork in 2011. The NSRF will forward names and addresses of these particular suicide deaths, identified by the NSRF as being part of these 2 clusters, to the CSO for examination.
The CSO circulated a hard copy of excel spreadsheet showing the additional number of suicide deaths that were registered late for the years 2000 et seq. These figures can be added to the already published figures for each year to get the most accurate data for each year. The late registered deaths can be added to in the future when the late registered data for 2014 at the end of the year. The CSO intends making these figures available on the CSO Statbank facility so that these figures can be added to the published suicide deaths based on occurrence (i.e. the year the death occurred).
The NSRF requested that CSO look at the late registered deaths to see if particular counties are involved in the late registration of these deaths.
The NSRF provided a hard copy of the report for the attendees, gave the background to and general outcomes of the report and hoped that this study could be replicated across the country.
The NSRF provided hard copies of this paper to the attendees for their perusal.
Next Meeting to be held by mid-October.
Carol Anne Hennessy
24th June, 2016.